Personnel Committee

October 11, 2007 - 9:30 am

CORRECTED

DRAFT MINUTES

 

 

Members:                   Larry Cornell, Chairman; Mike, McKee, Vice Chairman; Sandy Price, Don Spaulding, John Troy and Tom Williams

Others Present:          Marilyn Brown, Chairman, County Legislature; Scott Schrader, County Administrator; Katrina Spicer, Secretary to County Administration; Annette Barber, Personnel Officer; Laurie Gosse, Deputy Personnel Officer; Jeremy Boylan, County Historian; Elizabeth Larkin, County Clerk; and Corey Preston, Cortland Standard

Absent:                       Steve Dafoe

Mr. Cornell called the meeting to order at 9:36 am.

Mr. Troy made the motion to approve the minutes of the September 13, 2007 meeting; seconded by Mr. Spaulding.  All members voting in favor; none opposed; minutes approved as printed.

SUGGESTED LEGISLATIVE REVIEW:

** The following items have been noted as items for suggested Legislative Review by the C Chairman of the Personnel Committee.  These items are also noted with ** and in bold print.

·       Award Proposal/ Authorize Agreement Third Party Administration/ Cortland County Health Insurance

·       October CCTVS Meeting

·       Election Commissioner

RESOLUTIONS:

COUNTY CLERK

1.                  Authorize Contract, County Clerk’s Office, Document Management System – Mr. Spaulding moved adoption; seconded by Mr. Troy.  Mr. Schrader requested that the second resolved be deleted.  Mr. Schrader discussed a meeting he had with Betsy Larkin and Rob Corpora and further discussed the two RFP’s received.  He expressed that he is in agreement to go with Info Quick.  He explained that he has not received information back from Mr. Corpora regarding if it would be more cost effective for Info Quick to supply the equipment or for the County to purchase it.  He explained that the financial aspect of this resolution reflects the cost of Info Quick providing the equipment.  Mr. Schrader stated that this is the worst-case scenario.  All members present voting in favor; none opposed; resolution adopted as amended.

COUNTY HISTORIAN

** October CCTVS Meeting - Mr. Cornell announced at the upcoming CCTVS Meeting, scheduled for October 25, 2007 following Legislative Session, the County Historian will be providing an update in regards to the upcoming Bicentennial.  He announced that in addition to the County Historian be in attendance; Carol Tytler will also be in attendance to present information in regards to the proposed Department of Motor Vehicle sites.  Mr. Cornell encouraged everyone to attend. 

Information Processing Clerk – Mr. Boylan announced that the notice was released in regards to accepting application for the Information Processing Clerk and he plans on beginning to interview for that position in the next few weeks. 

INSURANCE

2.         ** Award Proposal/ Authorize Agreement Third Party Administration/ Cortland County Health Insurance – Ms. Price moved adoption; seconded by Mr. Troy.  Ms. Price asked Mr. Schrader about a further analysis regarding the third party administrator.  Mr. Schrader explained that at the request of the Committee, he and Laurie Gosse have had a meeting with the unions.  He explained that he has received correspondence from CSEA, NYSNA and CPAC all stating they have no desire to change third party administrator for health insurance.  He further discussed the two firms with competitive bids, RMSCO and POMCO.  Mr. Schrader stated that a descriptive analysis is ongoing.  He explained that RMSCO did submit three different proposals; one-year agreement, three-year agreement and five-year agreement.  He added that the rates are adjusted for the length of the term.  Mr. Schrader also explained that RMSCO couldn’t renegotiate their rates with providers until 2008.  Mr. Schrader further discussed conversations he has had with Legislators and added that due to the unions and the time involved he does not recommend changing.  Ms. Price discussed the disruption a change could cause.  Mr. Schrader discussed the Unions and the claims that a change could have on employees; economical impact and a need to switch providers.  He discussed this opening the door for grievances to be filed.  He explained that grievances can be mitigated and employees can be held harmless.  Mr. Schrader further stated that the administrative undertaking to mitigate grievances and hold employees harmless would be huge.  He also stated that the unions have indicated they do not support a switch.  Ms. Price explained that she respects an individuals right to pick their doctor.  Mr. Williams inquired about the last time when the County changed TPA’s.  Mr. Schrader stated that this time it would be different.  He explained that the providers under RMSCO were the same as the providers under Blue Cross Blue Shield.  He added that the problems encountered when the County went to RMSCO was due to the fact that Blue Cross Blue Shield was not administering the Plan Document the county had and then there was switch to RMSCO.  RMSCO began to administer the Plan Document as intended.  Mr. Schrader further discussed the initial appeals that were filed after the change to RMSCO and added that there has not been an appeal in the last year.  Mr. Williams inquired about the change not being worth $120,000.  Committee members discussed changing and the administrative burden that a change could cause.  They also discussed the numerous phone calls and e-mails they have received.  Mr. Schrader recommended that if the County were to stay with RMSCO he would recommend a three-year agreement.  Mr. Troy made a motion to insert RMSCO into the resolution and to make the term for three years; seconded by Mr. Spaulding.  All members present voting in favor; none opposed; resolution amended.  Mr. Spaulding expressed that he has received multiple phone calls and e-mail messages regarding this issue urging him not to vote for any changes in the current Health Insurance provider.  Ms. Price expressed that this is a subject that needs to be reviewed from time to time.  Mr. Cornell stated that four years ago we changed insurance companies, and some employees had to change health providers and he felt that the County shouldn't change again this soon.  He added that most of the issues with RMSCO have been ironed out and we should stay with them at this time.  Mr. McKee addressed his concerns regarding people with no health insurance and added that he would support not making any changes at this time to the County’s TPA.  Mr. Williams inquired about what the percentage of savings is compared to total payroll.  Mr. Schrader expressed that is would be roughly ½ %.  Mr. Schrader added that the savings as compared to the Health Insurance expenses is approximately 1% to 1½ %.  He also discussed the very small change in the increases in health insurance cost to employees.  Mr. Williams inquired if this was discussed at last months Budget & Finance Committee meeting.  Mr. Troy expressed that it was.  Chairman Brown expressed that these figures to not include the time and additional administrative costs that a change in TPA would have.  She also pointed out that this does not include any further financial damages if employees are held harmless.   All members present voting in favor; none opposed; resolution adopted as amended.

DISCUSSION:

1.         Vacancy Report, Personnel Officer – Ms. Barber provided a copy of the Vacancy Report to all Legislators.  Mr. Troy inquired about the vacancy of Accountant in the Treasurer’s Office.  Ms. Barber explained that she had forwarded applications to Mr. Ferris and she has not heard back from him yet.  Ms. Barber expressed that her office has received some interest in the Assistant Director Of Information Technology position and has also received a couple of additional applications for the Safety Officer position. 

New York State Department of Motor Vehicle, Resolution to Oppose Governor Spitzer’s Policy Change – Ms. Larkin distributed a copy of a resolution that she drafted for the Committee’s consideration.  Ms. Price stated that she would have liked to have an opportunity to review this sooner.  She expressed that she has not had time to review this and has not had a chance to make a decision.  Chairman Brown expressed that it is too political at this time.  Ms. Larkin expressed that it is time sensitive because it is to start December 1, 2007.  Committee members agreed that all Legislators receive a copy in their mailboxes and have time to review this and obtain more information if they desire.  Ms. Larkin stated that she has never said that she would not issue the licenses.  She expressed that she has an oath to uphold to the law, state and federal, and added that she cannot legally do this.  Ms. Larkin explained that the County Clerk’s voted last week in Albany to oppose this because it was rushed through too quickly.  She expressed that it was a difficult decision to make.  She expressed that those who attempt to apply for a license and are illegal aliens will be turned in to the appropriate authorities.  She expressed that this is confusing and questioned why New York State doesn’t just try to help them become legal.  Mr. Williams inquired about a directive being issued from the Commissioner about not requiring a social security number.  Ms. Larkin explained that there was a directive.  Mr. Williams discussed a court challenge to the Commissioners authority to set aside a section of law.  Ms. Larkin expressed that the County Clerks are agents of the Commissioner and further discussed the laws regarding this.  Mr. Williams suggested to Ms. Larkin that the County Clerk’s Association should challenge this at the State level.  He further discussed the County Clerk’s Association filing an Article 78.

**Election Commissioners – Mr. Cornell expressed that a decision was rendered in regards to the Election Commissioner’s lawsuit filed against the County.  He added that the decision was clear that the County must pay them.  Mr. Schrader explained that their salary must be changed to approximately $29,000.  Ms. Brown inquired if this must be done retroactively.  Mr. Schrader explained that there were no provisions in the decision for retroactive pay.  Ms. Price inquired as to what needs to be done to move this along.  Mr. Schrader explained that if the Legislature or the Election Commissioners decide not to appeal the decision, the decision would stand.  He explained that he recommends the Legislature wait to act until the expiration of the appeal period.  He explained that the Election Commissioners have the option to appeal the decision.  Ms. Price expressed that this should be a topic on the Budget & Finance Committee.  Mr. Troy agreed and requested that this be added to the Budget & Finance Committee agenda.  Mr. Schrader discussed Local Law No. 3 having been declared invalid.  He discussed further speaking with Mr. Gates in regards to this.  Mr. Williams stated that Mr. Gates should be invited to Legislative Session on October 25, 2007.  Mr. Schrader stated that he would contact Mr. Gates.  Ms. Price inquired as to what needs to be done to correct the records of the Legislature to make sure the records indicate that this local law has been declared invalid.  Mr. Schrader expressed that he anticipates the decision from the judge will be received and filed.  Mr. Cornell inquired about changing the terms of office of the Election Commissioners to run concurrently.  Mr. Schrader expressed that Mr. Gates can address this.  Mr. Schrader went on to discuss that he was disappointed in the decision and expressed that in his opinion it was poorly written and a poor analysis of the law.  He stated that the analysis of the law was mentioned but not analyzed.  Mr. Troy inquired about Mr. Gates opinion in regards to an appeal.  Mr. Schrader explained that Mr. Gates has not offered his opinion.  Mr. Schrader stated that there was no analysis of the Election Law and County Law together.  Mr. Williams stated that at the time the Elections Commissioner’s were not in the step program, they had been removed.  Chairman Brown inquired if the terms can be changed to run the same.  Committee members discussed changing the terms of the Election Commissioners and decided to discuss this Mr. Gates. 

Ms. Price announced that the Older Americans Advisory Council would like to see a campaign regarding Department of Motor Vehicle drop boxes and where they are located in the County.

2.                  Departmental Budgets – Mr. Schrader explained that there are not big changes in the departmental budgets that fall under the jurisdiction of this Committee except for the County Historian’s Budget.  He expressed that the Historian’s Budget increase is due to the Bicentennial Celebration in 2008.  He discussed the County advancing the funds for some of the events and revenue coming in from some of the events.  Ms. Price inquired about the use of occupancy tax.  Mr. Schrader explained that he was not happy in regards to the Convention & Visitors Bureau because they did not turn in their budget until just last week after he had to call and ask for it   He explained that budget requests are due September 1, 2007.  Ms. Price inquired about the Legislature taking back the distribution of occupancy tax.  Mr. Schrader stated that this should be discussed Budget & Finance Committee.  He also discussed that the Convention & Visitors Bureau did not follow directions in regards to there budget requests.  Mr. Boylan explained that he did put in an application for occupancy tax and was told that the money is earmarked for promoting Cortland County.  Mr. Troy stated that the Occupancy Tax Allocation Committee is to meet next week and decide the allocation of the money.  Ms. Price inquired again about the Legislature regaining the control of the occupancy tax allocation.  Mr. Williams suggested that the Legislature regaining the control of the occupancy tax funds be discussed at the Budget & Finance Committee meeting. 

Mr. Troy made a motion to go into Executive Session to discuss personnel matter; seconded by Mr. Spaulding.  The Personnel Committee went into Executive Session at 10:23 a.m.

The Personnel Committee returned from Executive Session at 10:43 a.m.

Committee members suggested that Worker’s Compensation formula be placed on next month’s agenda as a discussion item. 

Mr. Williams made a motion to adjourn the meeting; seconded by Mr. Troy.  Mr. Cornell adjourned the meeting at 10:44 a.m.

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